以太坊创始人真的喜欢 DeFi 吗?Vitalik Buterin 澄清事实

深潮Published on 2024-08-28Last updated on 2024-08-28

以太坊创始人Vitalik Buterin对DeFi的可持续性和价值提出批评,引发了社区对其对待DeFi态度的广泛争议。

撰文:Andrew Throuvalas

翻译:白话区块链

多年来,以太坊一直饱受质疑的浪潮,批评其旗舰用例——去中心化金融(DeFi)是否具有真正的价值。突然之间,这些批评的主要推动者之一成了网络的创始人维塔利克·布特林(Vitalik Buterin)。

Vitalik 在周日讨论他对 DeFi 的看法时在推特上写道:我想看到的应用程序是 (i) 在可持续的方式上有用的应用程序,并且 (ii) 不牺牲原则(无许可性、去中心化等)的应用程序。

他赞扬了去中心化交易平台、稳定币和 Polymarket 等为例子,但批评了「2021 年流动性挖矿狂潮」中出现的不具可持续性的产品。

Vitalik 的最新评论是对以太坊社区内部日益增长的挫折感的回应。社区认为,作为生态系统中最有影响力的声音,他只是「勉强容忍」DeFi,同时试图倡导其他尚未找到相同产品市场契合度的利基用例。

「过去五年中,他犯的最大错误之一就是低估了 DeFi 的重要性,」Synthetix 创始人凯恩·沃里克(Kain Warwick)在周五的一次播客节目中表示,并指责布特林对其他行业领袖进行「道德说教」,要求他们「停止做 DeFi」。

「他一直在试图把非 DeFi 的东西变成现实,」沃里克继续说道。「现实是,市场是对的——你才是错的。」

在该节目播出后,许多人对得知 Vitalik 并没有对以太坊上的 DeFi 表示欢迎或鼓励感到失望,除了他提到的例外情况。另一方面,一些坚定的比特币支持者对 Vitalik 的言论感到意外的欣喜,因为他们在反对 DeFi 收益计划上意外地与他找到了共同点。

正如 Vitalik 后来澄清的那样,他的批评甚至延伸到那些通过借款人和交易费用为 Token 持有者提供收益的 DeFi 协议,而不是通过 Token 通胀或「庞氏经济学」。

「这感觉像是一个自吞蛇:加密 Token 的价值在于你可以使用它们来赚取收益,而这些收益是通过……人们交易加密 Token 支付的,」他写道。

即使是使用 ETH 作为抵押品的超额抵押借代市场——如 Aave——在 Vitalik 看来也是有限的,因为这些市场的价值和存在最终是依赖于 ETH 市场的下游结果。

「我很想看到一个故事,收益的来源是根植于外部某种东西」,他说道。「我听说过一些可能的候选方案……我愿意听到更多这样的想法。」

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