U.S. SEC Said to Open Talks with Grayscale on Spot Bitcoin ETF Push

CoinDeskPolicyPublished on 2023-11-07Last updated on 2023-11-08

Abstract

Representatives of the company are answering questions from two divisions of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in the wake of Grayscale's court win over the agency.

The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has opened talks with Grayscale Investments on the details of the company's application to convert its trust product GBTC to a spot bitcoin exchange traded product (ETF), according to a person familiar with the back-and-forth, which could have momentous implications for the crypto industry.

An SEC approval of one or more ETF applications is keenly awaited by the sector, which sees that moment as a milestone that could ease everyday investors' path into digital assets. Grayscale has been in contact with both the SEC's Division of Trading and Markets and the Division of Corporation Finance since winning its court fight, said the person, who requested anonymity because the talks remain private.

Both SEC divisions would have a role in shaping and approving the firm's ETF application. Grayscale and CoinDesk are part of the same parent company, Digital Currency Group.

A D V E R T I S E M E N T
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

Grayscale has long had a relationship with the SEC due to its existing Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC), but when it sought to launch an ETF that would carry direct crypto assets, the agency denied it. A U.S. federal court battle ensued that ended with a panel of judges finding the SEC was "arbitrary and capricious" in its rejection, and the court ordered the agency to erase its denial. The court decision was finalized last month, putting the application back in front of the regulator.

"Right now we're just laser-focused on constructively reengaging with Trading and Markets," said Craig Salm, Grayscale's chief legal officer, though he didn't expand on the details of that interaction.

"There are still things that have to be worked through," Salm said in an interview, also noting that others among the applicants for bitcoin ETFs – a group that includes financial giants BlackRock and Fidelity – seem to be making progress in SEC talks with their own registrations. "Overall, it's been good engagement, and it's a matter of when, not a matter of if anymore."

SEC spokespeople didn't immediately respond to a request for comment on the new talks.

When pressed two weeks ago about what his agency will do next with Grayscale's application and the others, SEC Chair Gary Gensler said he wouldn't answer while the commission waits for its staff to recommend a course of action. Meanwhile, he published a video earlier on Wednesday spotlighting the work of the agency's corporation-finance arm – dealing with "rapidly evolving technology and business models" –  that will be central to Grayscale's application.

A D V E R T I S E M E N T
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

Related Reads

Suzerain State: Anthropic

Anthropic, a five-year-old AI lab dubbed a "suzerain," has rapidly gained unprecedented influence by securing massive financial and computational commitments from tech giants, positioning itself at the center of AI infrastructure power dynamics. In May 2026, it announced securing over 300 MW of computing power from SpaceX's Colossus 1 data center, on top of earlier multi-billion dollar deals with Amazon and Google, effectively locking in over 20 GW of future compute. These investments are tied to reciprocal spending commitments on the investors' cloud platforms, resembling infrastructure pre-sales. This "suzerain" status is fueled by explosive growth. By May 2026, Anthropic's annualized revenue reportedly surged to over $44 billion, with Claude surpassing OpenAI in LLM market share. Its high-revenue-per-user efficiency and flagship product Claude Code have secured a strong enterprise foothold. However, its pre-IPO status faces scrutiny. OpenAI challenged Anthropic's accounting, alleging its reported revenue includes gross payments shared with cloud partners, unlike OpenAI's net revenue reporting. The resolution of this debate is critical as both companies approach public listings. Currently, Anthropic holds unique leverage as the only top-tier model available across AWS, Google Cloud, and Microsoft Azure, inverting traditional vendor-customer dynamics. Yet, its suzerainty is considered a time-limited game, dependent on converting its current advantages into sustainable, audited profitability and navigating the complex web of strategic dependencies with its powerful patrons.

marsbit42m ago

Suzerain State: Anthropic

marsbit42m ago

Tian Yuandong Announces Startup Venture After Leaving Meta

After leaving Meta, Tian Yuan Dong has announced his new venture. The startup Recursive_SI has officially launched with a list of founders including Tian Yuan Dong. The founding team also comprises Richard Socher (CEO), Tim Rocktäschel, Jeff Clune, Tim Shi, Caiming Xiong, and Alexey Dosovitskiy, among others. These members have experience building AI research labs at companies like Salesforce and Uber, and have held leadership roles at OpenAI, DeepMind, Google Brain, and Meta. Recursive_SI aims to develop artificial intelligence capable of conducting experiments autonomously and safely improving itself through an open-ended, automated scientific discovery process. This is seen as a promising path toward superintelligence. The company has raised $650 million at a valuation of $4.65 billion, led by GV (Google Ventures) and Greycroft, with significant investments from AMD Ventures and NVIDIA. The team has grown to over 25 members, including new additions like Zhuge Mingchen. Zhuge, a Founding Member, holds a Ph.D. in Computer Science from KAUST under Professor Jürgen Schmidhuber. His research focuses on Coding Agents, Recursive Self-Improvement (RSI), and next-generation machine paradigms, with contributions including early RSI systems like GPTSwarm and work on agentic AI frameworks. The founders shared their vision on X: building AI that can automatically discover knowledge and recursively self-improve, fundamentally changing the way science and technology advance. The team is recognized as a leader in core areas of recursive self-improving AI, with past breakthroughs in open-ended algorithms, AI-generated algorithms, automated testing, world models, Vision Transformers, RAG, and AI scientists. There is high anticipation for Recursive_SI's future research.

marsbit57m ago

Tian Yuandong Announces Startup Venture After Leaving Meta

marsbit57m ago

Trading

Spot
Futures
活动图片