专访Arthur Hayes:根本就没山寨季,我买了超多黄金

比推Pubblicato 2025-08-25Pubblicato ultima volta 2025-08-25

来源 | Odaily 星球日报

作者|郝方舟

原标题Odaily专访Arthur Hayes:没有山寨季,我买了超多金条


见到活的 Arthur Hayes了!

加密世界对这个名字绝不陌生,作为 BitMEX 联合创始人、Maelstrom CIO,Arthur Hayes 既是行业建设者的先锋代表,也是最高频大胆输出的行情预测 KOL,没有之一。他不仅有沃顿商学院经济学的理论背景,还在杀入 Crypto 大施拳脚前,在德意志银行和花旗银行实战交易多年。

据其最新剧本:鲍威尔坚持不降息,特朗普另谋他法“榨出流动性”;大牛市势在必行,所有和特朗普政策挂钩的金融资产都会受益;加密市场秋季震荡,逢低便是加仓好时机;ETH 破新高后打开上涨空间,未来几年能到 10000~20000 美元;加密财库公司没那么容易崩盘;山寨币重点看 ENA 和 HYPE……

你看,不管是外部采访还是 X 账号 互动,Arthur Hayes 每次输出都会清晰亮出观点和论据,且不惧打脸、灵活调整。其生产的长文(BitMEX 博客),更因会讲故事,善赋比兴,常被各家媒体争相编译转载。

8 月 24 日,感谢友媒 CoinPost 引荐,Odaily 星球日报有幸于东京 WebX 正式开始前专访 Arthur Hayes。

鉴于 Arthur 日常大谈宏观分析和点位预判,本次对话除此之外,也带到一些不常出现在“市面”上的话题,比如他对 WLFI、YZY、黄金、AI 和长寿科技的态度,个人偶像,日常生活节奏和爱好等。现将访谈整理如下,enjoy~

Odaily 星球日报:Hi,Arthur,很荣幸能有机会当面聊天,我是你的铁粉,ENA 从 0.8 买到 0.3(注:ENA 现价 0.7 USDT),我谢谢你哈。

Arthur Hayes:哈哈哈哈,Nice。

Odaily 星球日报:今天咱俩先从宏观聊起——鲍威尔。前两天你说他不会“屈服”降息,但好像有变啊,所以,你的最新市场预测是啥?

Arthur Hayes:鲍威尔这次松口,说会为特朗普实现其经济目标而“提供钱”。所以我认为,美元印发的节奏会加快,美联储会更贴特朗普的想法。比特币,年底能到 25 万美元。

Odaily 星球日报:过去一段时间,大部分山寨币的涨幅不如 ETH,山寨季什么时候来?继续拿住 ETH 会是买山寨更好的选项吗?

Arthur Hayes:根本就没山寨季。过去 18 个月,只有 HyperLiquid 表现最好。山寨币都在接受审判,它们的通病是高 FDV、低流通、资本高度控盘,项目既没数据又没用户,所以社区出来惩罚这批项目,不再 hold 了。

Odaily 星球日报:最近市场还有个变量,WLFI 官宣将于 9 月 1 日上线,你如何看待该代币的盘前估值?市场会因为 WLFI 的上线而被抽血吗?

Arthur Hayes:我压根就没看它估值。说实话,我也不太知道这项目是做啥的,定位是对冲基金还是 Dapp 商店?没关注也不在乎。要说对加密市场影响的话,特朗普的孩子们有分配 WLFI 代币给哪些 DeFi 项目的决定权,但我没调查就不多说了。

Odaily 星球日报:你是有个投研团队么?全球宏观经济高速变化,如何在海量信息重排优先级?

Arthur Hayes:还真有个团队,主攻早期项目,要是遇到好项目会签约成为顾问。我自己主要负责流动性交易,专注于研究宏观变量,利率调整、通胀率这些。再有,就是会投一些我个人很喜欢的项目,它们通常用户增长很快、能赚钱,还用赚的钱回购代币。我们团队会一起寻找有这些特性的项目,不一定千倍回报,但至少不会在明天就 rug 了。

Arthur Hayes 的 X 封面背景

Odaily 星球日报:Kanye 的 YZY 怎么说?一样都不符合呢?

Arthur Hayes:哈哈哈,YZY,哈哈哈,我还没玩够。不一样,YZY 是 Memecoin,我当它彩票玩。大多 Memecoin 结局归零,玩玩得了。

Odaily 星球日报:那你心态不错哈哈。获取信息时,你的“第一性原则”是什么?

Arthur Hayes:我只在乎流动性,这是我看投资品的首要视角,Crypto 的流动性在扩张,BTC 最好了,也最安全;我确实也有些山寨币,但总体很少花精力关注。

Odaily 星球日报:你有什么特别的消息渠道?

Arthur Hayes:没。

Odaily 星球日报:和规则制定者呢?会有沟通渠道吗?

Arthur Hayes:哈哈哈,我只是在 Crypto 有名,但不在消息“核心圈”里,我还读别人的研报呢。

Odaily 星球日报:行业里呢,有哪些朋友一起交流项目或观点吗?

Arthur Hayes:也没,主要和自己团队泡在一起,聚焦宏观变量——流动性扩张,牛市,我们就猛上;情况不妙时,我们就从牌桌上撤筹码。这不就是趋势交易嘛。

Odaily 星球日报:你的投资偶像是谁?

Arthur Hayes:(想了超久),em,大概是 Stanley Druckenmiller。(注:曾于 88 年到 00 年为索罗斯管理资金,也是 Duquesne Capital 前董事长兼总裁,该基金 10 年关闭时资产超过 120 亿美元,更多详见其 wikipedia。)

Odaily 星球日报:你自己的仓位构成呢,除我们经常“链上视奸”的钱包之外的,方便透露下?

Arthur Hayes:BTC – 60%,ETH – 20%,山寨 – 20%。

Odaily 星球日报:你的币都在哪些产品里做理财?

Arthur Hayes:我不做借贷诶,会用 Ethena 质押 USDe。别的协议很难讲是否贷款良性,我不想冒险。

Odaily 星球日报:币之外呢,投啥买啥。

Arthur Hayes:我买了超多黄金。

Odaily 星球日报:等等,你是说实物,金条那种?在瑞士放着吗?

Arthur Hayes:哈哈哈,对,金条,在哪呢,反正在世界的某个地方。

Odaily 星球日报:泰酷辣。你是不是最近还投了个干细胞注射的长寿科技公司(Bloomberg 信源),可以分享下这方面?

Arthur Hayes:确实有,我对健康生活挺在意的,还有提升生命质量。人类花大量精力试图破解年龄增长的秘密,以及如何逆龄。想象未来,我会尽情享受(人生)的。

Odaily 星球日报:健康之外,对人类未来生活有何设想?2050 年 AI 会接管一切不?不再需要你投资、交易了?

Arthur Hayes:人们到底想过怎样的生活,还没想清楚吧。我也没想清楚。

Odaily 星球日报:既然聊到享受生活,最近有啥旅行计划?

Arthur Hayes:暑假嘛,四处走走,把身体练好,为之后的滑雪季做准备,冬天冲北海道的雪场。

Odaily 星球日报:我刚从札幌过来!去 RSR(摇滚音乐节)看椎名林檎,比东京凉快。

Arthur Hayes:OK,我还真没夏天去过。

Odaily 星球日报:你的日常生活节奏是怎样?

Arthur Hayes:每天锻炼 3 小时,读书——小说、金融——对什么感兴趣就读什么,每周打几个小时的电话,长辈不太用定期照顾,遇到事我出现就好。

Odaily 星球日报:听起来蛮健康。这次来日本呢,有啥安排或任务?话说你每次参会,除了输出,你期待怎样的输入?

Arthur Hayes:这次呆很短,明天演讲就走,也没约日本的机构、项目。关于稳定币,我有些想表达的,明天演讲完看看台下反响。

Odaily 星球日报:对日元和港币稳定币有何看法?

Arthur Hayes:说实话,不太有用。日本和中国香港的法币和银行系统运转良好,稳定币不太需要出场。美元稳定币才是刚需,因为其他地区的人真用得到。

Odaily 星球日报:感谢分享~明天加油。

Arthur Hayes:谢谢,参会愉快!


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