Hyperliquid 创始人谈创业经历:自学编程、拒绝 VC

marsbitPubblicato 2024-12-03Pubblicato ultima volta 2024-12-04

《When Shift Happens》此前访谈邀请了 Hyperliquid Labs 创始人 Jeff。Hyperliquid 是一个去中心化永续合约交易平台,同时也是 Layer 1 项目。在一小时的对话中,Jeff 分享了他的创业历程、项目愿景以及对 DeFi 行业的观察。PANews 对访谈内容进行了编译,涉及项目的技术创新、运营模式、用户体验改善等方面,同时也探讨了加密货币行业的发展趋势和挑战。

创业历程

主持人:Jeff,能和我们聊聊你是怎么走上创业这条路的吗?

Jeff:这要从 2020 年初说起。那时候我就开始研究一些简单的交易脚本,主要是研究中心化的加密货币交易所(CEX)。虽然当时已经有很多大型做市商进场了,但有时候"无知者无畏"反而是件好事。我就想着试试看能不能赚点钱。

最开始的研究结果很有希望,所以我决定认真做这件事。说实话,我之前并不太会写代码,但为了实现目标,我就开始自学编程。到了 2022 年,我们已经发展成为许多交易场所最大的交易者之一,在高频做市方面可能是最好的之一。


主持人:是什么促使你从成功的量化交易转向创建 Hyperliquid 的?

Jeff:主要有两个原因:

首先,我们开始关注 DeFi 领域,发现了很多有趣的协议设计。DeFi 中有个有趣的现象:很多不懂金融的人在尝试构建金融系统,这反而给量化策略带来了很多机会。

其次,FTX 的崩溃是个重要的转折点。这件事让人们真切地意识到不能盲目信任中心化交易所。这不是什么抽象的理论讨论,而是实实在在的资金损失。对我们来说,这是一个重要启示——世界终于准备好接受真正的 DeFi 了。


产品理念

主持人:你能用通俗的语言解释一下,Hyperliquid 到底是做什么的吗?

Jeff:从人类历史的角度来看,社会一直在向着个人主义方向发展。每一次朝着个人主义、人权等方向的进步,从结果来看都是积极的,无论用 GDP 还是幸福度来衡量。

Hyperliquid 就是在继续推动这个方向:从最早需要用武器保护自己的农场,到后来可以把钱存在银行,再到现在的 Hyperliquid——你可以通过加密技术来完全掌控自己的资金。

具体来说,我们正在构建一个系统,它能:

· 满足用户对 Web2 金融的所有期待

· 提供低廉的费用

· 支持快速转账

· 实现即时结算

· 提供媲美中心化交易所的流动性

· 允许无需信任地与其他应用程序集成

· 支持用抵押品借贷

· 让用户能够真正自由地使用自己的资金


融资策略

主持人:为什么选择不接受任何投资?这在行业内很少见。

Jeff:这确实不是传统意义上的商业项目。这可能是 DeFi 甚至整个加密货币领域第一次这样做,但如果看看亚马逊的例子,贝佐斯在早期也很长时间没有从中获利。

我们这么做有几个深层原因:

· 加密货币行业过于重视短期利益

· 如果要创造新的金融方式,让 VC 在早期就持有 50% 的网络份额会是个永远的污点

· 我们团队有能力不依赖外部融资,这让我们可以坚持这个决定


行业观点

主持人:你对当前加密货币行业有什么批评吗?

Jeff:说实话,目前行业最"成功"的产品往往是发行欺诈性代币。很少有项目真正遵循用户至上的模式,因为获取真实用户确实很困难。大多数项目都走捷径:先获得大型做市商的投资,然后通过激励计划吸引交易。这种模式从长远来看是不可持续的。


主持人:你如何看待当前加密货币行业的现状?

Jeff:虽然很多人把加密货币看作是一个失败的实验,但我认为这是人类重新发明金融系统的唯一希望。金融是人类最伟大的发明之一,它让我们可以:

· 用更抽象的方式表示价值

· 实现更好的资本配置

· 建立完整的经济体系

如果没有这些,其他所有的进步可能都无法实现。人类社会可能还停留在农耕甚至采集狩猎阶段。

软件应该能够彻底改变金融,但现实是金融(可能还有医疗保健)是少数几个没有经历实质性创新的大型行业之一。


技术创新

主持人:能详细说说 Builder Codes 的概念吗?

Jeff:这是个简单但强大的概念。它允许任何人在 Hyperliquid 的基础上构建金融应用,比如:

· 创新的移动钱包

· 社交交易平台

· 区域性交易所

· 法币入金通道

开发者可以:

· 构建自己的交易所业务

· 使用我们的中立后端

· 以用户信任的方式收取费用

· 直接在协议层面获得收入,而不是依赖与中心化交易所的私下协议

这将开启 DeFi 中构建业务的全新方式,让专业化成为可能。了解特定地区用户需求的人可以专注于服务这些用户,而 Hyperliquid 在后台提供支持。


未来展望

主持人:你如何看待项目的长期发展?

Jeff:我喜欢用围棋和国际象棋来做比喻。你不需要完全确定最终要走到哪里,但要确保每一步都朝着正确的方向。重要的是把每一步都走好,而不是过分执着于遥远的终点。这就是为什么我们更关注基础设施的建设,而不是短期的市场表现。

主持人:Hyperliquid 的长期愿景是什么?

Jeff:我们的核心理念是:

· 加密货币将改变金融的运作方式

· 传统金融最终会向加密货币迁移

· Hyperliquid 将成为承载这些金融活动的基础平台

具体实现路径很难预测,但这不是最重要的。我们专注于建设那些无论未来如何发展都将发挥重要作用的基础设施:

· Builder Codes 系统

· 与链上原生组件集成的 EVM

· 可持续的优质流动性

这些都是难以做好但必不可少的基础设施,我相信无论 10 年后加密货币如何发展,它们都将是不可或缺的基石。

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